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F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 11:27
por Rafa(RAVM)
Horarios

FRI Practice 1 02:00
FRI Practice 2 06:00
SAT Practice 03:00
SAT Qualifying 06:00
SUN Race 06:00


Hora de CR


Ahora si me los madrugué a todos

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 11:29
por Rafa(RAVM)
Circuito

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 11:31
por Rafa(RAVM)
Spa-Francorchamps

Belgium's Spa-Francorchamps circuit is among the most historic on the Formula One calendar, having hosted a (non-championship) Grand Prix as long ago as 1924, and remains one of the most popular venues with drivers and fans alike.

Run on narrow public roads, the original Spa layout was an amazing 14.9 kilometres long and notoriously dangerous. The lap distance was reduced slightly over the years, with some corners eased, but when the 'old' circuit staged its final Grand Prix in 1970 it still measured just over 14 kilometres and remained staggeringly quick - Chris Amon set that year's fastest lap at an average speed of just under 245 km/h.

Spa did not return to the calendar until 1983 and then in drastically revised form, with lap distance cut to just under seven kilometres. Somehow, though, the circuit's magic was retained. Around two thirds of the lap used the original layout and the legendary Eau Rouge corner remained intact. Only the new Bus Stop chicane on the run down to La Source drew criticism.

More than twenty years on Spa remains the longest circuit on the calendar. Its mix of long straights and challenging fast corners, coupled with its picturesque setting, means that most drivers still rank it among their favourite tracks. The weather is still notoriously changeable (it can often be simultaneously raining on one part of the track and dry on another) and Eau Rouge, with its high speed and sudden elevation change, maintains its reputation as one of Formula One racing's most technically demanding corners.

Such is the challenge of Spa that only the truly great drivers can really claim to have mastered it. In fact just six men have won the race more than twice - Juan Manuel Fangio (three times), Damon Hill (three times), Kimi Raikkonen (three times), Jim Clark (four times), Ayrton Senna (five times) and Michael Schumacher (six times).

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 11:34
por chechov3
Excelente, esperando con muchas ganas y sobre todo una nueva victoria para la Scuderia!!!

VAMOS KIMMI Y MASSA!!!!

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 11:40
por Hess
pobrecito yo pero... VAMOS ALONSO!!! :sunny: :sunny:

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 11:57
por guanabi
Hess escribió:pobrecito yo pero... VAMOS ALONSO!!! :sunny: :sunny:


+1

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 12:03
por pascal
Rafa(RAVM) escribió:Horarios

FRI Practice 1 02:00
FRI Practice 2 06:00
SAT Practice 03:00
SAT Qualifying 06:00
SUN Race 06:00


Hora de CR


Ahora si me los madrugué a todos
Ya NO HAY quite pa' preguntar! :latigo:

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 12:09
por black demon
esta se la lleva kimi

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 12:48
por Marvin Jaén
guanabi escribió:
Hess escribió:pobrecito yo pero... VAMOS ALONSO!!! :sunny: :sunny:


+1
+ yo... :1:



PD: Rafa... sos un genio. :ok:


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Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 13:47
por estebanvenon
Siempre voy con Alonso!!!
:thumbleft: :thumbleft: :thumbleft: :thumbleft: :thumbleft: :thumbleft:

Le voy al 1 y 2 de Ferrari en este circuito

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 13:51
por VR6
Y el GP de Italia?

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 13:51
por guanabi
pucha, y en el 2010 voy a tener que hacerme ferrarista... :descojonado:

voy reservando cupo en el Dante Alighieri...

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 14:36
por Sauron
Espero que este circuito se tiña de rojo ...














... como el año pasado con el 1-2 de Ferrari :conducir:

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 15:16
por Rafa(RAVM)
VR6 escribió:Y el GP de Italia?

8 días después de esta

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 15:28
por Accord
Pole de Kimi 2007, qué circuito más chuzo, aunque me gustaba un poquito más con los pits/bus stop de antes :)

[youtube]4p2ACbYKmfE[/youtube]

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 15:33
por Accord
Una foto lindísima de wiki, mejor siguen el link porque es muuuuuy grande

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... erview.jpg

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 15:39
por estebanvenon
FOTOTA!!!


Mejor darle click al link estan enorme que pega el tema :bom:

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 15:47
por Rafa(RAVM)
Será que algún día LG va a estar llena de árboles para evitar la contaminación sónica?

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 15:52
por VR6
Rafa(RAVM) escribió:
VR6 escribió:Y el GP de Italia?

8 días después de esta

No es cierto que Italia es septiembre 7, osea antes' o mi calendario esta mal redactado.

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 16:02
por pascal
Vamos MASSSSSSSSSSSSSA

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 16:11
por Gabrol
Al chile... que fresa pista.. muy buena foto esa que tomaste EstebanVenom.. jejeje....

Quien se llevara esta....

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 16:14
por CELICA3SGE
Se rajaron con esa foto...ke brava ke esta!!!!!

Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 16:42
por Accord
Pases en

Les Combes, chicane 5&6

Zapatero vs Prost, 1993 muy pirotécnico el rebase

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Zapatero vs Hakkinen 2000, clásico!

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Bus stop, ultimo chicane

No encontré rebases con la config nueva (derecha/izq) pero con la aerodinámica de ahora tal vez sea muy difícil que se peguen en las curvas super rápidas que lo preceden. Edit: me encontré a Heidfeld y Kubica pasándole a Kovalainen el año pasado (nada en youtube :( ), este último iba a un solo pitstop, tons parece que dadas las condiciones si permite uno que otro rebase ese ultimo chicane.

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Con la config de antes aquí está Montoya dandole a Schumi:

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Otros

Sinopsis del GP del 85 narrado por Senna

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Salida 2007, Alonso le echa la nave a Hamilton

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Masacre de 98, después Schumi le arrea a DC por detrás y lo va a buscar a los pits, después de llevar la nave en tres ruedas, en lluvia!

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1992, Senna se baja de la nave a ayudar a Eric Comas, habla de la cláusula que tenía Prost en su contrato con Williams para que Senna no fuera contratado por estos, y primer gane de Schumacher, clásico!

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Re: F1 GP de Bélgica Spa-Francorchamps

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 16:57
por Accord
Notas tecnicas de Renault para el año pasado. Dudo que a Massa le alcance el motor, tal vez mejor se queda en casita relajándose para Monza.
Bridgestone lleva duras y medias, ta difícil para Ferrari por todo lado.


Chassis

Spa is a severe test for a modern F1 car. The average lap speed is high, aerodynamic loadings are both elevated and prolonged, and every aspect of the vehicle's handling is tested to the limit.

The circuit features a high number of "aero corners" (only 6 of the 19 turns are taken at less than 150 kph), and this would normally push the teams towards relative high levels of downforce in order to maximise grip in the corners, as is the case at a circuit like Silverstone for example. However, Spa imposes a very different trade-off, because the two long flat-out "straights" on the circuit both provide genuine overtaking opportunities.

This means that top-speed is a critical factor in order to protect position, and downforce levels must be determined accordingly. As a result, the teams run a similar aerodynamic configuration to that used in the North American races, achieving end of straight speeds of around 320 kph with the V8 engines (compared to 340 kph when we last raced at this circuit in 2005 with the V10). Aerodynamic efficiency (generating maximum downforce for minimum drag) is the key to success at this circuit.

In terms of suspension settings, the overall compromise is relatively stiff in order to ensure good aerodynamic performance in the quicker corners, and a good change of direction in the quick chicanes. However, good traction is also critical on the exit of the final Bus Stop chicane and La Source hairpin, as poor performance in either part of the circuit can leave a driver vulnerable to overtaking under braking for the next corner. Spa is the most demanding circuit of the season for the tyres...

Our ride heights are limited by the high forces encountered through the compression in Eau Rouge. From the bottom to the top of the hill, the car's ride height can vary by as much as 25 mm and if the car bottoms out too much, the drivers can lose control. With the V8 engines and the current aerodynamic regulations, Eau Rouge is now taken easily flat out at around 300 kph. The drivers will scrub off around 10 kph through the sequence, but it is important to conserve as much speed as possible in order to maintain position along the long straight before Les Combes.

Almost the only part of the car which has a relatively easy time is the braking system. The circuit features just three very heavy braking events, before turns 1 (La Source), 5 (Les Combes)and 18 (Bus Stop) . Overall, though, this is one of the easiest circuits for the brakes owing to the numerous high speed corners.


Engine

Along with Monza, Spa is the most demanding circuit of the season for the new V8 engines, which have never been raced here. The test session earlier this year was an important one in order to verify the engine's operation around the long lap.

The duty cycle is particularly severe, with 73% of the lap spent at full throttle (only Monza exceeds this figure, with 77% of the lap). Furthermore, this includes two prolonged full throttle periods of over 20 seconds. The most challenging of these is undoubtedly the run of approximately 23 seconds from La Source to Les Combes, which includes Eau Rouge.

This sequence exposes the engine and its ancillaries to extreme positive and negative vertical 'g' forces through the compression and over the crest that follows. This is a factor we take into account when designing our lubrication systems, in order to avoid problems with oil feed under the extreme loadings.

Spa is also the longest lap of the season, and the circuit has a very high fuel mass penalty. Under the current qualifying regulations, this means that an engine with good fuel consumption can be a particular advantage.

Ufff, gracias!

Publicado: 02 Sep 2008 17:22
por Rocketman
Accord escribió:Masacre de 98, después Schumi le arrea a DC por detrás y lo va a buscar a los pits, después de llevar la nave en tres ruedas, en lluvia!
Schumacher reclamaba que DC había aflojado a propósito, y cuando llegó al pit le gritaba que si estaba tratando de matarlo. Años después DC admitió que lo había hecho a propósito. Levantar el pedal del acelerador en un F1 a full gas es como clavarse de los frenos, desacelera como 1 g solo con eso.

Gracias por el excelente Youtoubeazo!

The Rocketman
Nostalgic Rockets