VW - PORSCHE se fusionan

[GLI]

Iniciaran una nueva compañia que unirá las diez marcas las nueve de VW y Porsche...


Elaboran un proyecto de estructura financiera para el nuevo consorcio automovilístico

BERLÍN.- El grupo alemán Porsche anunció hoy planes para fusionarse con el fabricante Volkswagen como parte de un proyecto para construir una nueva estructura integrada con las 10 marcas automotrices más importantes.

Porsche, que ya cuenta con 51 por ciento de participación en Volkswagen, anunció sus planes durante una reunión de todos los miembros de las familias Porsche y PiÙch, en Salzburgo, Austria, indicó un comunicado del grupo alemán.

'Bajo una única dirección, la nueva estructura debería agrupar las 10 marcas alemanas, pero permitirá a todas las marcas, incluido Porsche, guardar su existencia propia', según la declaración.

El anuncio fue recibido con beneplácito por Volkswagen, que en un comunicado separado saludó la decisión de los representantes de la familia Porsche y PiÙch.

Frente a fuertes deudas, Porsche finalmente eligió esta solución que le permitirá poner la mano sobre alrededor del 75 por ciento de la liquidez de Volkswagen.

El fabricante alemán gastó alrededor de 23 mil millones de euros (más de 30 mil millones de dólares) para adquirir 51 por ciento de participación, pero ha elevado su endeudamiento a 16.2 mil millones de euros (unos 21 mil millones de dólares) en lo que va del presente año.

La reunión de esta tarde en Salzburgo debía determinar la estrategia financiera del grupo alemán para salir de esta situación preocupante.

http://www.exonline.com.mx/diario/notic ... _vw/592056

[pacsum]

Porsche a la F1 por favor.

[+GTR+kitos+GTR+]

Porsche a la F1 por favor.

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+1

[pmontero]

Deja harinilla vender Cayennes, porque hasta hace no muchos años la posición financiera de Porsche era precaria por ponerlo bonito...

[pmontero]

Otra noticilla que me encontré para darle seguimiento a la que puso GLI... lamentablemente no la encuentro en español pero en resumen lo más importante que comunica es que ya hay un equipo de trabajo conjunto entre Porsche y VW basado en Wolfsburg, y que este grupo está compuesto por representantes de ambas compañías, uniones de trabajadores y el estado de Sajonia que posee el 20% de las acciones de VW.



It appears Porsche Automobil Holding SE is shelving its plan for a takeover of Volkswagen Group and is trying another approach at forming some sort of merger with Wolfsburg-based VW Group.

The two German automakers have formed a working group at VW headquarters in Wolfsburg to work out the details for a merger. The VW-Porsche working group is made up of representatives from both automakers, as well as from worker councils and the state of Lower Saxony, where VW Group is based, which owns a 20 percent stake in VW giving it veto power over all strategic decisions.

The working group has not released many details about the plan, but say they have come up with a blueprint that both parties have agreed to. The two automakers will form a single automotive company with 10 brands, including Porsche, which Porsche Holding currently operates on its own. VW Group consists of 9 brands which include Audi, Seat, Skoda, Scania, Lamborghini, Bentley, Bugatti, VW Commercial Vehicles and Volkswagen passenger cars.

Porsche has run up a debt of over 9 billion euros in buying up VW stock in its attempted takeover. It holds a 51 percent share of VW and had earlier planned to take that share to 75 percent but has now set that goal aside. According to Reuters' sources, Porsche will inject 5 billion euros into the new company upon its formation in 2009 or 2010. It is not clear yet whether Porsche Automobil Holding SE will still remain a separate company.

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Hacia la creación de un grupo fabricante de automóviles

[Danenbs]

Porsche a la F1 por favor.

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hmmm... no está mala la idea... para nada

[Accord]

Deja harinilla vender Cayennes, porque hasta hace no muchos años la posición financiera de Porsche era precaria por ponerlo bonito...

Pero deja más jugar con el mercado financiero :)
La parte más reciente de la historia de como Porsche ha ido adquiriendo VW me pareció muy interesante cuando la leí, y a la luz de esta noticia me parece aún mas:

But car manufacturing isn't the only thing the company is good at.

Last year it made six times as much on the stock market as it did making cars.

Industry insiders are only half joking when they call it a hedge fund with a carmaker attached.

Porsche says its stock market trades are only for one reason: to take it towards its long term goal, the takeover of car making giant, Volkswagen.

Historia completa:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7843262.stm

Y algo similar en español:

http://mimundodigital.wordpress.com/200 ... inanciero/

[+GTR+kitos+GTR+]

Porsche a la F1 por favor.

ufffffffffff

+1

hmmm... no está mala la idea... para nada

fijoo fijooo patean culos!

lo que veo duro es el motor! pero jumm... quien sabe con que motorsote nos salen y nos quedamos como =O

[pmontero]

Deja harinilla vender Cayennes, porque hasta hace no muchos años la posición financiera de Porsche era precaria por ponerlo bonito...

Pero deja más jugar con el mercado financiero :)
La parte más reciente de la historia de como Porsche ha ido adquiriendo VW me pareció muy interesante cuando la leí, y a la luz de esta noticia me parece aún mas:

But car manufacturing isn't the only thing the company is good at.

Last year it made six times as much on the stock market as it did making cars.

Industry insiders are only half joking when they call it a hedge fund with a carmaker attached.

Porsche says its stock market trades are only for one reason: to take it towards its long term goal, the takeover of car making giant, Volkswagen.

Historia completa:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7843262.stm

Y algo similar en español:

http://mimundodigital.wordpress.com/200 ... inanciero/

ayyy juefruta mae cualquier corredor de bolsa de Wall Street se desea esa pespicacia tuya!!! Yo sí sabía de la existencia de Porsche Holding como dueña de la compañía pero no sabía que participaran en otros negocios o el "bísnes" que llaman por ahí...

[Accord]

Deja harinilla vender Cayennes, porque hasta hace no muchos años la posición financiera de Porsche era precaria por ponerlo bonito...

Pero deja más jugar con el mercado financiero :)
La parte más reciente de la historia de como Porsche ha ido adquiriendo VW me pareció muy interesante cuando la leí, y a la luz de esta noticia me parece aún mas:

But car manufacturing isn't the only thing the company is good at.

Last year it made six times as much on the stock market as it did making cars.

Industry insiders are only half joking when they call it a hedge fund with a carmaker attached.

Porsche says its stock market trades are only for one reason: to take it towards its long term goal, the takeover of car making giant, Volkswagen.

Historia completa:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7843262.stm

Y algo similar en español:

http://mimundodigital.wordpress.com/200 ... inanciero/

ayyy juefruta mae cualquier corredor de bolsa de Wall Street se desea esa pespicacia tuya!!! Yo sí sabía de la existencia de Porsche Holding como dueña de la compañía pero no sabía que participaran en otros negocios o el "bísnes" que llaman por ahí...

Jeje, pa que vea que no solo pierdo tiempo en el foro, tengo varias áreas en las que se me va el día

[GLI]

Cómo se llamará la nueva compañía...


¿Cómo bautizar a la unión de Volkswagen y Porsche? Según publica 4Car, el nuevo conglomerado automovilístico principalmente alemán podría acabar llamándose Auto Union, recuperando la denominación que en 1932 aglutinó Audi, DKW, Horch y Wanderer (de ahí los cuatro aros).

Se hizo famoso en todo el mundo gracias a las victorias de sus modelos de carreras de color plata, equipados con un motor central de 16 cilindros, diseñados con la ayuda de Ferdinand Porsche en 1933. Se dice que su nieto, Ferdinand Piech, empujó el proyecto del Veyron con 16 cilindros bajo la mano de VAG como homenaje a aquellos deportivos diseñados por su abuelo. En todo caso, algunas fuentes (algo retorcidas en mi opinión) alegan que el uso de Auto Union tendría connotaciones nazis (la marca fue inyectada con capital directo del gobierno nazi). Pero por la misma regla de tres, Volkswagen también sería un nombre con connotaciones fascistas alemanas (fue una marca fundada por idea del propio Hitler) y ahí la tenemos triunfando. La verdad es que no parece mala idea la del uso de Auto Union, que significa exactamente lo que van a hacer Porsche y el grupo Volkswagen.
http://es.autoblog.com/

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parece que ahora le pusieron el freno al asunto, del lado VW de la jugada no están muy convencidos.


VW Halts Merger Talks with Porsche
Leadership and strategy are key sticking points
by Michael Gauthier
May 18, 2009 2:19 PM
Filed Under: Corporate/Financial, German, Industry, Porsche, Volkswagen

Porsche's planned merger with Volkswagen has hit an unexpected roadblock which has resulted in a temporary halt to negotiations.

According to a VW spokesperson, "We recognized ... that Porsche is lacking several fundamental conditions for the discussions," including a plan which integrates the two companies. Essentially, Volkswagen's shareholders are contending that there's not enough synergy between the two companies to make a merger successful the way things currently stand.

Although Porsche declined to comment, one of the key sticking points revolves around who would lead the new company. There has been mounting pressure to name Volkswagen's CEO, Martin Winterkorn, the leader of the merged company, a move which likely doesn't sit well with Porsche.

Recently a source indicated that Porsche's heavy financing of the Volkswagen deal has put them in a tough situation which has resulted in them offering VW their car business, but so far that is unconfirmed.

Porsche is scheduled to meet today to discuss the recent breakdown in negotiations, so expect more news in the coming days.

[pmontero]

Y ahora parece que vuelve a caminar el chiquito... estos maes están en un puro "que sí, que no, que caiga el chaparrón!" La vara es que Porsche tiene un huequillo en la bolsa del pantalón de 9 mil millones de Euros por tanto enredo que hicieron para conseguir el efectivo (un menudillo ahí) para comprar acciones de VW.


Porsche and VW Resume Merger Talks
Negotiations could be wrapped up by early June
by Michael Gauthier
May 20, 2009 1:33 PM
Filed Under: Corporate/Financial, German, Industry, Porsche, Volkswagen

Volkswagen's love/hate relationship with Porsche is once again firmly in the love department thanks to the resumption of merger negotiations.

As we reported a few days ago, merger talks broke down when VW declared Porsche lacked a legitimate plan for integrating the two companies. Apparently there was a change of heart and both companies issued identical press releases stating they "...will advance efforts toward this goal (the merger) in a constructive way and in mutual agreement with all the parties concerned."

Despite this minor victory, the merger still faces several hurdles including Porsche's massive 9 billion euro ($12.27 billion USD) debt and an angry Volkswagen labor union which wants detailed plans for the post-merger strategy.

Both companies are hoping to get everything wrapped up by early June, but in the meantime Porsche is attempting to refinance its debt and sooth anxious Volkswagen shareholders.

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No afloja el porschibiris:

REPORT: Porsche expects to book $979.5 million in profits for fiscal year

by Chris Shunk on Jun 2nd 2009 at 9:01AM


Porsche may have gotten in over its head when it tried to take over Volkswagen outright, but that doesn't mean the German automaker is struggling to sell premium sports cars. The Stuttgart-based automaker is planning on selling 80,000 units in 2009 at an astounding profit margin of 12%. That's $979 million in US currency, and more profit than most automakers several times its size will likely achieve during the global economic downturn.

The news of Porsche's healthy booty comes as a bit of a surprise considering its flirtation with bankruptcy back in March. Porsche has 9 billion euros in debt hanging over its head, though it told Reuters it can cope with the red ink. Porsche had to borrow 700 million euro from Volkswagen to get itself out of an earlier jam, and it's now discussing a merger with Europe's largest volume automaker.

Claus Schmiedel, a member of parliament in Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany, says that Porsche intends to increase sales in 2010 to 100,000 units, and that it intends to again eclipse 1 billion euro in earnings. Not too shabby for an automaker pushed to the brink of insolvency.

[Source: Reuters | Image Source: Michael Latz/Getty]

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/06/02/repo ... ts-for-fi/

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Deja harinilla vender Cayennes, porque hasta hace no muchos años la posición financiera de Porsche era precaria por ponerlo bonito...

lo mismo pense.....aqui en Panama antes ver alguien con un Porshe, minimo era de marte nisiquiera habia agencia, hoy en día las cayenne se ven mas que otras marcas 4x4 Mercedez, Touareg, etc. no se ven muchos en comparacion con la Cayenne, ..... se venden aprox 4-6 por mes aqui si no me falla la mente......

[pmontero]

No afloja el porschibiris:

REPORT: Porsche expects to book $979.5 million in profits for fiscal year

ECHATE UNA HARINILLA WEÓN

Y pensar que GM acaba de mandarse a bancarrota, Fiat salvó a Chrysler de irse por la cloaca y Toyota tuvo por primera vez en su historia pérdidas operativas... qué cosas no???

[Accord]

No afloja el porschibiris:

REPORT: Porsche expects to book $979.5 million in profits for fiscal year

ECHATE UNA HARINILLA WEÓN

Y pensar que GM acaba de mandarse a bancarrota, Fiat salvó a Chrysler de irse por la cloaca y Toyota tuvo por primera vez en su historia pérdidas operativas... qué cosas no???

Mae si, algunas cosas de la crisis actual de primera impresión son un poco:

[Accord]

Petrodólares al rescate!!!

Porsche reportedly closing in on Qatar investment deal

by Noah Joseph on Jun 9th, 2009 at 7:26AM
Porsche 911 Carrera 4S in the Autoblog Garage – Click above for high-res image gallery

It's a match made in heaven: Porsche needs money, Qatar has tons of it. Any questions?

Following deals that have seen Kuwaiti firms take control of Aston Martin and Abu Dhabi investing in Daimler and Ferrari, Porsche is reportedly closing in on a deal that would see the Qatar state government help Porsche pull itself out of debt and regroup for its planned take-over of the Volkswagen auto empire. The once cash-flushed sportscar-maker is in the process of refinancing its debt to the tune of 12.5 billion euros, but with 10.75 billion already raised, a request pending for another 1.75 billion from the German federal government and an anticipated additional billion in revenues anticipated this year, Porsche is still eager to bring in more capital.

Although previous reports suggested the deal would involve the Qatar state government buying stake in Porsche, that was before Stuttgart and Wolfsburg began discussions of convoluted mergers. Two options are subsequently reported to now be on the table: Qatar could either buy stake in Porsche Automobil Holding SE (which owns both Porsche's automaking unit and its 51% stake in VW), or alternatively buy up Porsche's outstanding option on 24% stake in Volkswagen, thereby giving Stuttgart a partner and Wolfsburg a new power-player.

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tome Accord me lo madrugué con esta... petrodólares de vuelta para ayudar a Porsche por enjaranarse tanto tratando de controlar VW.





Qatar Closing On 25% Porsche Stake
Porsche + Qatar = Love

Porsche's financial nightmare may soon be over, as the country of Qatar is in talks to take a 25% stake in the troubled automaker.

An agreement between Porsche and the Qatar government prevents either party from disclosing details, but Qatar's prime minister, Sheikh Hamad bin Jassem al-Thani, said negotiations are continuing.

As we have previously reported, Porsche has accumulated a massive 9 billion euro ($12.5 billion) debt in their failed attempt to takeover Volkswagen. With the takeover off the table, Porsche has attempted to merge with VW but their debt has proved to be a major sticking point.

Despite the would-be marriage, Volkswagen has distanced themselves from the issue by stating they stand "behind (Porsche's) talks with an investor" and "Qatar ... will only be dealt with by Porsche."


Source: Autonews

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tome Accord me lo madrugué con esta...

Jaja mae no se vale vos me llevás 6 horas, aquí faltan como 3 horas para que pase esa noticia

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tome Accord me lo madrugué con esta...

Jaja mae no se vale vos me llevás 6 horas, aquí faltan como 3 horas para que pase esa noticia

esta no es por llevarte algunos husos horarios... porque las noticias son viejas pero nadie las posteó aquí!!!!


VW to buy Porsche for 8 billion euros - tables turned
by Zack Newmark

For over three years, German manufacturer Porsche SE had worked diligently to complete a takeover of Volkswagen. After a series of missteps, the tables have turned. The predator appears to be close to an agreement that would allow its former prey to instead buy Porsche AG -the sports car division- for about €8 billion ($11.28 billion), according to German newspaper Der Spiegel.

An upcoming July 23 meeting of the Porsche supervisory board could finalize a deal that would give Volkswagen 49.9 per-cent of Porsche AG up front, with the rest available for acquisition in the future. Porsche would become the 10th car brand owned by the Volkswagen Group. Other brands include Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Seat, Scania. Skoda, VW, and VW Commercial Vehicles.

By selling Porsche AG, the sports car's parent company would be able to pay off a considerable portion of its alleged €10 billion debt. Much of that debt was created in Porsche's failed takeover bid of VW, a deal that was largely backed by bank financing that dried up in the wake of the global economic crisis.

The crisis at Porsche will likely lead to a shake-up at the top of the firm. Company CEO Wendelin Wiedeking is reportedly constructing a €100 million golden parachute so he can bail out of the firm. Production head Michael Macht would replace him at the top of Porsche AG, according to Der Spiegel.

The tale is another chapter in the history of two rival factions of a prominent German family. VW Beetle creator Ferdinand Porsche, who created Volkswagen, was the grandfather of both Ferdinand Piech and Wolfgang Porsche. Piech is the chairman of VW and part-owner of Porsche, while his cousin, Wolfgang Porsche, is the chairman of Porsche SE and a member of the VW supervisory board. The two are considered to be bitter rivals.

Piech looks to have gotten the ultimate win over his competitor, but we will not know for sure until the end of that July 23 meeting.

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otra nueva... Herr Wiedeking para afuera y se acerca más el momento donde más bien VW tome control mayoritario de Porsche...


Porsche CEO Wiedeking steps down - paving way for VW



Porsche SE Chief Executive Officer Wendelin Wiedeking
by Zack Newmark
July 23, 2009 2:18 PM

Porsche SE CEO Wendelin Wiedeking has agreed to leave the company he helmed for 16 years as part of a deal to sell sports car marquee Porsche AG to Volkswagen for €8 billion. The resignations of Wiedeking and Porsche CFO Holger Haerter were announced following a meeting of the Porsche supervisory board, and are effective immediately.

Wiedeking spearheaded Porsche's failed takeover attempt of Volkswagen, Europe's largest automaker, allowing his company to increase their ownership of VW to 51 percent with an additional 20% in options. The strategy started in 2005, with Porsche gradually accumulating more shares while fighting with the government of Lower Saxony about the legality of a full takeover. Meanwhile, debt at Porsche swelled to over €10 billion, prompting Porsche to raise capital from outside investors and sell off its sports car division to negate the debt. During the board meeting, Porsche reaffirmed plans to raise a minimum of €5 billion, in part from a Qatar-based investment group.

A meeting this afternoon in Stuttgart by the VW supervisory board is expected to include a declaration of support for Porsche, including the desire to make Porsche the next brand under the VW umbrella. Volkswagen already owns Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Seat, Scania. Skoda, VW, and VW Commercial Vehicles.

The takeover attempt is believed to have widened an already-sizable rift within the family that controls both companys. VW Chairman Ferdinand Piech is the cousin of Porsche SE chair Wolfgang Porsche. Both men are grandchildren of VW Beetle creator Ferdinand Porsche, who also founded Volkswagen. Further complicating matters is Piech's participation as a partial owner of Porsche, and Wolfgang Porsche's membership on Volkswagen's supervisory board.

“Wiedeking’s course has split the families and caused major irritations in Porsche’s working ties with VW,” said Stefan Bratzel in an interview with Bloomberg. Bratzel runs the Center of Automotive Research Institute in Germany. “Wiedeking has no place in a combined VW-Porsche carmaker.”

Porsche may also be in a position to save money by hiring a new CEO to run the firm. Wiedeking received an annual salary equal to 0.9% of pretax profit at the firm, which translated to a roughly €77 million paycheck for July 2007 to July 2008. That high figure was not always the case. When Wiedeking took the helm at Porsche in 1993 he found himself in charge of a nearly bankrupt firm. He transformed Porsche AG into one of the most successful automakers in the world, which boasted higher profit margins than any other automaker worldwide.

Porsche executive board member and production chief Michael Macht will takeover for Wiedeking.

[Danenbs]

Ah carajo !!

Con que así es la cosa ??

Bueno... como que no le salió el toque como esperaba a Porsche

[pmontero]

esta es la últi,a... ahora VW incrementará su participación en Porsche al 49,9%, o sea casi control mayoritario...



tomado de http://www.nacion.com/ln_ee/2009/octubr ... 29945.html

Volkswagen comprará 49,9% de Porsche por 3.900 millones de euros
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Publicado: 2009/10/20 | 02:49 PM


Francfort (AFP). El constructor automovilístico alemán Volkswagen anunció hoy martes que comprará el 49,9% de su rival Porsche por 3.900 M de euros (unos 5.830 millones de dólares) de aquí a fines de 2009.

Hasta el momento, Volkswagen iba a comprar el 42% del constructor de autos deportivos de lujo por 3.300 millones de euros.

El alza de la participación del número uno europeo "refleja el desarrollo positivo de las discusiones entre Volkswagen y Porsche", indicó VW en un comunicado

Esta operación será financiada mediante un aumento de capital por un monto global estimado de unos 10.000 millones de euros hasta 2014.

“El calendario global no ha cambiado y la fusión de los dos grupos está prevista para 2011”, agregó el martes Volkswagen.

En agosto pasado, Volkswagen había puesto fin a meses de tensión con Porsche al anunciar su compra por etapas.

Volkswagen planea convertirse en el primer fabricante automovilístico del mundo en 2018, por delante del japonés Toyota.

Porsche, por su parte, trataba desde hacía unos cuatro años hacerse con el control de Wolkswagen a través de una compra progresiva de acciones.

Sin embargo, un endeudamiento creciente hasta más de 9.000 millones de euros, así como la crisis financiera y la caída de su volumen de negocios hicieron la empresa de Porsche imposible y el constructor de bólidos renunció a ella en mayo.

Con esta operación Porsche se convertirá en la décima marca del grupo Volkswagen, que ya cuenta en su haber con las marcas Audi, Bentley, Bugatti y Lamborghini, entre otras.

Según acordaron ambos constructores, Porsche seguirá siendo una "marca independiente" y conservará su sede histórica cerca de Stuttgart (suroeste).