un poco más completo pero en inglich http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72034Force India ha hecho oficial hoy que ha su contrato con Ferrari como suministrador de motores ha concluido.
El acuerdo firmado en 2007 también incluía la temporada 2009, pero el contrato ha sido rescindido con un año de antelación por petición expresa de Force India.
Ahora se espera que el equipo indio haga público de forma inminente un acuerdo con McLaren Mercedes para el suministro del motor Mercedes FO 108V y de la caja de cambios de siete velocidades de McLaren. El acuerdo también podría incluir el sistema KERS de McLaren.
En el comunicado oficial, el equipo Force India desea "agradecer a Ferrari su valioso y preciado apoyo hasta la fecha, que siempre ha sido del máximo nivel, tanto a nivel técnico como profesional y dentro de una excelente relación profesional."
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Force India: gracias Ferrari, ciao Ferrari
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Force India: gracias Ferrari, ciao Ferrari
A como yo leo las cosas, esto confirmaría que el tren motor plateado con KERS va más avanzado que el rojo
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Q es el sistema KERS?
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Mae es Kinetic Energy Recovery System. Básicamente formas de almacenar energía que normalmente se convertiría en calor al aplicar los frenos, y después liberarla para mayor aceleración. Hay dos sistemas que yo sepa para F1, el común donde la energía va a una batería, tipo un Prius, y hay otro que creo que sólo Williams va a usar que es un volante pegado a un sistema parecido al que usan los carros que tienen caja de relaciones infinita tipo Murano (dos conos opuestos), entonces al frenar parte de la energía se almacena por medio de girar ese volante y después se usa ese mismo giro para acelerar el carro; las relaciones entre los conos permiten diferentes 'marchas' que se adecuen a diferentes velocidad de frenado o aceleración. Creo que los maes sólo pueden usar el sistema una vez por vuelta y como máximo puede soltar 80 HP.rish escribió:Q es el sistema KERS?
La bronca ahorita con el KERS es el peso. No porque añada, ya que en todo caso los F1 corren con peso añadido artificialmente (lastre), sino porque los equipos pierden la opción de distribuir ese lastre a donde más convenga. Se dice que por los slicks del año que viene, proporcionalmente tan anchos adelante, los carros van a tener fuertes problemas de sobregiro. Si a eso se añade que el KERS significará ~50 kilos puestos en la parte trasera, los carros van a ser un puro drifting. O sea al fin y al cabo lo que ganen en aceleración lo pueden perder tratando de enderezar el carro en media curva.
Voy a ver si me encuentro en buen artículo de KERS y lo pongo aquí.
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Force India llega a un acuerdo con Mclaren- Mercedez
Force India have confirmed the deal to form a technical partnership with McLaren-Mercedes for the 2009 season, as revealed by autosport.com earlier this year.
The multi-year deal will see the team's 2009 car - the VJMO2 - powered by Mercedes engines, in an agreement which includes the marque's Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS) and will give Force India access to McLaren's network of parts suppliers.
The car will also be fitted with a McLaren gearbox and hydraulic systems.
The team have also confirmed that they will be expanding their computational fluid dynamics capabilities at the Brackley Aero Centre.
"We are absolutely delighted to be able to announce a technical partnership with McLaren Applied Technologies and Mercedes-Benz HighPerformanceEngines, and also our plan to expand the composite manufacturing capability and drawing office within our Silverstone facility," said chairman and managing director of Force India Vijay Mallya.
"McLaren and Mercedes-Benz are two of the most famous names in motorsport history having achieved superb success in Grand Prix racing over many years, and most recently, a superb victory in probably the most dramatic world championship Formula One has seen.
"Force India Formula One team has been in existence for only one year, and inevitably our first season has constituted a learning period," said Mallya. "But we said at the outset that we meant business and were not interested in merely making up the numbers.
"The announcement of our new technical partnership, combined with the new developments and resources clearly underlines that we meant what we said. I would personally like to thank Bernie Ecclestone and FIA president Max Mosley, both of whom offered their assistance and support throughout the gestation of this deal."
Mallya believes that the deal, which is for five years, will allow the team to raise their game in 2009 after a season in which they finished 10th in the constructors' championship without a point.
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Force India have confirmed the deal to form a technical partnership with McLaren-Mercedes for the 2009 season, as revealed by autosport.com earlier this year.
The multi-year deal will see the team's 2009 car - the VJMO2 - powered by Mercedes engines, in an agreement which includes the marque's Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS) and will give Force India access to McLaren's network of parts suppliers.
The car will also be fitted with a McLaren gearbox and hydraulic systems.
The team have also confirmed that they will be expanding their computational fluid dynamics capabilities at the Brackley Aero Centre.
"We are absolutely delighted to be able to announce a technical partnership with McLaren Applied Technologies and Mercedes-Benz HighPerformanceEngines, and also our plan to expand the composite manufacturing capability and drawing office within our Silverstone facility," said chairman and managing director of Force India Vijay Mallya.
"McLaren and Mercedes-Benz are two of the most famous names in motorsport history having achieved superb success in Grand Prix racing over many years, and most recently, a superb victory in probably the most dramatic world championship Formula One has seen.
"Force India Formula One team has been in existence for only one year, and inevitably our first season has constituted a learning period," said Mallya. "But we said at the outset that we meant business and were not interested in merely making up the numbers.
"The announcement of our new technical partnership, combined with the new developments and resources clearly underlines that we meant what we said. I would personally like to thank Bernie Ecclestone and FIA president Max Mosley, both of whom offered their assistance and support throughout the gestation of this deal."
Mallya believes that the deal, which is for five years, will allow the team to raise their game in 2009 after a season in which they finished 10th in the constructors' championship without a point.
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Jeje, cada vez FI parece más un baby McLaren :
McLaren won't decide Force India drivers
By Edd Straw and Jonathan Noble Monday, November 10th 2008, 14:20 GMT
Simon Robert, Vijay Mallya and Martin WhitmarshMcLaren have dropped a firm hint that they will recommend who their preferred drivers are for new team partners Force India, but have insisted they will not impose their will on the Silverstone-based team.
Force India announced on Monday that they have entered into a five-year partnership arrangement with McLaren, which will in this first instance see them receive a supply of Mercedes-Benz engine, gearbox, KERS and other 'operational' assistance.
While discussions between Force India and McLaren were ongoing, speculation surfaced that Mercedes-Benz DTM racer Paul di Resta and McLaren test driver Pedro de la Rosa could be in the frame for drives next season.
But speaking to autosport.com on Monday, McLaren F1 CEO Martin Whitmarsh made it clear that his team would not make such demands on Force India - although he said they would likely make recommendations about such things as drivers.
"There's nothing off bounds in this partnership," said Whitmarsh. "Vijay has shown a lot of confidence in his commitment and investment in this partnership and us.
"We'll sit down and talk about every aspect of the programme, and that extends beyond the process development and the powertrain. We've got to work together on all those things.
"We will make proposals and recommendations that we think are enhancing the prospect of good performance. Vijay is an enormously successful entrepreneur in his own right in many fields, and if he turned all of those attentions to Formula One he would be an awesome competitor for all of us.
"The reality is that I suspect he has some staggering business commitments outside of Formula One and he would expect us, as a specialist professional in this field, to make all of the recommendations that are necessary to go forward.
"At the end of the day, we've got to be respectful that Force India are a team in their own right. They are a partner, but although there will be a range of strident suggestions and recommendations, this team have to decide. It's in his hands.
"This isn't a takeover by McLaren. This is an independent team that we happen to be partnering, and I hope that we can bring business benefit to this organisation."
Force India team principal Vijay Mallya admitted that he would listen to McLaren's advice about drivers – although said there were bigger issues to deal with at the moment.
"Martin put it very well - they will recommend what will be in the best interests of my team and I will be hard pressed to ignore their advice," he said. "First we have to build a car.
"If we don't have a car then there's no point having a driver! The whole idea is first to get a car now. It's already pushing the envelope a little bit, so we need to focus on the car. The driver comes next.
"We will have these conversations. McLaren will take as much pride in the interests of Force India as I do and whatever Martin suggests I will take seriously as being in my best interests. We will talk about it. A driver is just one element."
Whitmarsh also made it clear that there was no suggestion of Force India becoming a McLaren B-team, or even simply running customer cars.
The deal has been put in place in such a way that it is not in breach of the Concorde Agreement, the document by which F1 is run, which effectively outlaws customer cars.
"We are assuming that the provisions of the old Concorde Agreement are in place," said Whitmarsh. "We are able to supply the identical powertrain in the previous framework. We are also able to help develop the capability processes and procedures of this team.
"In reality that's good. It's good for the workforce here, and the pride that they take. That's making a longer-term investment. If Concorde allowed and/or we decided to hand across our car and make it a customer team, a B-team or whatever, it may create a happy partner in the short-term but it doesn't build this team for the long-term.
"I believe Vijay wants to achieve success as early as he can, but he has the vision and the commitment that he'd see, rather than a shell of a team with the cars delivered from Woking, an organisation that is stronger and has the ability at the end of this agreement to have the self-belief and confidence in a very respectable manner to go on on its own."
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