F1 GRAN PREMIO AUSTRALIA 2014 - INFO, COMENTARIOS Y MAS...

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Se está a la espera de confirmar si tenia excedente de gasolina. No hay nada oficial

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Se excedió en el flujo de 100kg/h pero no en la cantidad de 100 kg. Al no estar contemplado en el reglamento deportivo se pasa a instancias superiores para el criterio final.

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Parece que ya es oficial, queda Ricciardo excluido

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Parece que ya es oficial, queda Ricciardo excluido

Ufff qué salado Ricciardo, la verdad que estaba fuera de su alcance como piloto, Red Bull como equipo dice que apelarán porque según ellos fue debido a un problema en el sensor de flujo. Aquí hay una buena explicación, parte de problema es que según reglamento hay un procedimiento alternativo en caso de fallo del sensor, y Red Bull decidió aplicar otro mecanismo de cálculo propio, y sin aprobación de la FIA.

http://www.f1times.co.uk/news/display/08637

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Además a pesar de la furia de Massa parece que lo de Kobayashi va a quedar ahí, los comisarios han revisado la data del carro y resulta que tuvo un problema en los frenos que ocasionó el accidente.

[ffigueroa]

Jejeje, fijo el problema en el sistema de frenos está entre el pedal y la silla...

[ffigueroa]

De la resolución de la FIA sobre Ricciardo se puede rescatar este punto:

9) The FIA technical representative observed throughout the telemetry during the race that the fuel flow was too high and contacted the team, giving them the opportunity to follow his previous instruction, and reduce the fuel flow such that it was within the limit, as measured by the homologated sensor – and thus gave the team the opportunity to be within compliance.
The team chose not to make this correction.

[marketair]

Curiosa decisión de eliminar a Riccardo pues el problema fue que usaron sensores diferentes pero no excedieron el flujo. Imposible dejar de ver que RBR la va a tener mas dificil que los demás equipos en el 2014 pero demostraron que serán potenciales ganadores en cada carrera. Me da gusto ver a Mclaren en el top 3 y a Williams con capacidad para ganar nuevamente. A pesar de que es prematuro me parece que las posibilidades de que los pilotos de Ferrari ganen continúan reduciéndose de ser muy buenas en 2012, solo buenas en 2013 y poco probables en 2014.

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[ruiz]

La verdad es que la carrera estuvo bien aburrida, prácticamente solo Bottas fue el que le puso algo de emoción. Me parece que hace falta mucho para poder ver una carrera interesante.

[ruiz]

Un punto que me llama mucho la atención del reporte de los comisarios es este

5) The stewards heard from the technical representative that when the sensor was installed on Saturday night, he instructed the team to apply an offset to their fuel flow such that the fuel flow would have been legal. He presented an email to the stewards that verified his instruction.

Si en realidad se dio de ésta manera, me parece muy difícil que Red Bull pueda ganar cualquier

[Fermava]

Coincido con la mayoría, Bottas salvó la trasnochada! Me imagino lo que hubiera logrado Massa si no es que lo sacan! Esa carrera con esos motores sonando como silbato de Duck Dinasty,

Lo de Ricciardo no se ha oficializado, tengo entendido! O si?

[pmontero]

Coincido con la mayoría, Bottas salvó la trasnochada! Me imagino lo que hubiera logrado Massa si no es que lo sacan! Esa carrera con esos motores sonando como silbato de Duck Dinasty,

Lo de Ricciardo no se ha oficializado, tengo entendido! O si?

Si, es oficial la exclusión de Ricciardo. Red Bull dice que apelarán la sanción, pero con los datos que hay a la luz, se ve difcil el panorama para que se las acepten.

[pmontero]

Ojo aquí Fermava, la explicación completa de los comisarios:



http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/ ... 15579.html


The stewards' decision in full:

The Stewards, having received a report from the Technical Delegate, heard from the team representatives, have considered the following matter and determine a breach of the regulations has been committed by the competitor named below and impose the penalty referred to.

No/Driver: 3, Daniel Ricciardo
Competitor: Infiniti Red Bull Racing
Time: 20:17
Session: Race
Facts: Car #3 was not in compliance with article 5.1.4 of the FIA Formula 1 technical tegulations.
Offence: Breach of article 3.2 of the FIA Formula 1 sporting regulations and Article 5.1.4 of the FIA Formula 1 technical regulations.
Decision: Car #3 is excluded from the race results.
Reason:
1) The technical delegate reported to the stewards that car #3 exceeded the required fuel mass flow of 100kg/h. (article 5.1.4 of the Formula 1 technical regulations)

2) This parameter is outside of the control of the driver, Daniel Ricciardo.

3) The fuel flow is measured using the fuel flow sensor (Art. 5.10.3 & 5.10.4 of the technical regulations) which is homologated by the FIA and owned and operated by the team.

4) The stewards considered the history of the fitted fuel flow sensor, as described by the team and the technical delegate's representative who administers the programme. Their description of the history of the sensor matches.

a. During practice one a difference in reading between the first three and run four was detected. The same readings as Run 4 were observed throughout practice two.

b. The team used a different sensor on Saturday but did not get readings that were satisfactory to them or the FIA, so they were instructed to change the sensor within parc ferme on Saturday night.

c. They operated the original sensor during the race, which provided the same readings as run four of practice one, and practice two.

5) The stewards heard from the technical representative that when the sensor was installed on Saturday night, he instructed the team to apply an offset to their fuel flow such that the fuel flow would have been legal. He presented an email to the stewards that verified his instruction.

6) The technical representative stated to the stewards that there is variation in the sensors. However, the sensors fall within a known range, and are individually calibrated. They then become the standard which the teams must use for their fuel flow.

7) The team stated that based on the difference observed between the two readings in P1, they considered the fuel flow sensor to be unreliable. Therefore, for the start of the race they chose to use their internal fuel flow model, rather than the values provided by the sensor, with the required offset.

Technical directive 01614 (1 March 2014) provides the methodology by which the sensor will be used, and, should the sensor fail, the method by which the alternate model could be used.

a. The technical directive starts by stating: "The homologated fuel flow sensor will be the primary measurement of the fuel flow and will be used to check compliance with articles 5.1.4 and 5.1.5 of the F1 technical regulations..." This is in conformity with articles 5.10.3 and 5.10.4 of the technical regulations.

b. The technical directive goes on to state: "If at any time WE consider that the sensor has an issue which has not been detected by the system WE will communicate this to the team concerned and switch to a back-up system."
(emphasis added.)

c. The back-up system is the calculated fuel flow model with a correction factor decided by the FIA.

9) The FIA technical representative observed thought the telemetry during the race that the fuel flow was too high and contacted the team, giving them the opportunity to follow his previous instruction, and reduce the fuel flow such that it was within the limit, as measured by the homologated sensor - and thus gave the team the opportunity to be within compliance. The team chose not to make this correction.

10) Under Art. 3.2 of the sporting regulations it is the duty of the team to ensure compliance with the technical regulations throughout the event.

Thus the stewards find that:

A) The team chose to run the car using their fuel flow model, without direction from the FIA. This is a violation of the procedure within TD/01614.

B) That although the sensor showed a difference in readings between runs in P1, it remains the homologated and required sensor against which the team is obliged to measure their fuel flow, unless given permission by the FIA to do otherwise.

C) The stewards were satisfied by the explanation of the technical representative that by making an adjustment as instructed, the team could have run within the allowable fuel flow.

D) That regardless of the team's assertion that the sensor was fault, it is not within their discretion to run a different fuel flow measurement method without the permission of the FIA.

[Fermava]

Rosberg brillante, la F1 en deuda

Con una gran largada Nico Rosberg se adueñó de la carrera en Melbourne. Ricciardo terminó segundo pero fue excluído. Gran nivel de Magnussen y McLaren, mientras Hamilton y Vettel abandonaron temprano. Ferrari lejos de la punta.


No sorprendió la victoria de Rosberg en Melbourne. Mercedes era favorito y cuando Nico superó a Ricciardo y Hamilton en la largada comenzó a construir su cuarto triunfo en F1. Hamilton desertó temprano, al igual que Vettel, aquejado por un problema en el motor Renault.

El sorprendente andar del Red Bull de Ricciardo le permitió al australiano llegar segundo, aunque más tarde fue excluído al comprobarse que su flujo de combustible superó los 100 kilos por hora, máximo permitido por el reglamento. Red Bull apeló la medida ya que, según Horner, director del equipo, los sensores de FIA no resultaron confiables en sus mediciones.

El equipo McLaren se va de Australia con una amplia sonrisa. El debutante Magnussen terminó en el podio y su compañero Button detrás, con lo que encabeza el campeonato de constructores. Magnussen le dio la razón a la confianza que depositó Ron Dennis en él.

Alonso finalizó quinto con su Ferrari F14T, mientras su compañero Raikkonen quedó lejos tras dos despistes con un auto indócil. Ferrari sumó puntos, lo que pretendía, pero también comprobó que está fuera de ritmo comparado con Mercedes y McLaren.


Una de las figuras de la carrera fue Valtteri Bottas, que luchó más que nadie y pasó autos desde el comienzo hasta el final. En el medio cometió un error al tocar la pared y romper la goma trasera derecha, lo que no le permitió llegar al podio con su Williams. Bottas “salvó” el espectáculo, dentro de una competencia discreta y monótona.


Los Toro Rosso llegaron en los puntos, con Vergne y Kvyat, al igual que Hulkenberg y, finalmente, Pérez, ante la exclusión de Ricciardo. Force India cumplió, aunque debe mejorar.

Fue una lástima que Kobayashi lo atropellara a Massa en la curva 1, nos quedamos sin saber hasta dónde podría haber llegado Felipe con esta gran mejora de Williams con respecto a 2013.

La F1 quedó en deuda. Las nuevas reglas hicieron trabajar y sufrir a todos los pilotos y equipos y no justificaron tanta inversión. El espectáculo fue pobre, cada piloto estuvo más preocupado en su propio andar que en pelear posiciones, salvo la gran tarea de Rosberg, Bottas y Mangnussen.

[Fermava]

Ojo aquí Fermava, la explicación completa de los comisarios:



http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/ ... 15579.html


The stewards' decision in full:

The Stewards, having received a report from the Technical Delegate, heard from the team representatives, have considered the following matter and determine a breach of the regulations has been committed by the competitor named below and impose the penalty referred to.

No/Driver: 3, Daniel Ricciardo
Competitor: Infiniti Red Bull Racing
Time: 20:17
Session: Race
Facts: Car #3 was not in compliance with article 5.1.4 of the FIA Formula 1 technical tegulations.
Offence: Breach of article 3.2 of the FIA Formula 1 sporting regulations and Article 5.1.4 of the FIA Formula 1 technical regulations.
Decision: Car #3 is excluded from the race results.
Reason:
1) The technical delegate reported to the stewards that car #3 exceeded the required fuel mass flow of 100kg/h. (article 5.1.4 of the Formula 1 technical regulations)

2) This parameter is outside of the control of the driver, Daniel Ricciardo.

3) The fuel flow is measured using the fuel flow sensor (Art. 5.10.3 & 5.10.4 of the technical regulations) which is homologated by the FIA and owned and operated by the team.

4) The stewards considered the history of the fitted fuel flow sensor, as described by the team and the technical delegate's representative who administers the programme. Their description of the history of the sensor matches.

a. During practice one a difference in reading between the first three and run four was detected. The same readings as Run 4 were observed throughout practice two.

b. The team used a different sensor on Saturday but did not get readings that were satisfactory to them or the FIA, so they were instructed to change the sensor within parc ferme on Saturday night.

c. They operated the original sensor during the race, which provided the same readings as run four of practice one, and practice two.

5) The stewards heard from the technical representative that when the sensor was installed on Saturday night, he instructed the team to apply an offset to their fuel flow such that the fuel flow would have been legal. He presented an email to the stewards that verified his instruction.

6) The technical representative stated to the stewards that there is variation in the sensors. However, the sensors fall within a known range, and are individually calibrated. They then become the standard which the teams must use for their fuel flow.

7) The team stated that based on the difference observed between the two readings in P1, they considered the fuel flow sensor to be unreliable. Therefore, for the start of the race they chose to use their internal fuel flow model, rather than the values provided by the sensor, with the required offset.

Technical directive 01614 (1 March 2014) provides the methodology by which the sensor will be used, and, should the sensor fail, the method by which the alternate model could be used.

a. The technical directive starts by stating: "The homologated fuel flow sensor will be the primary measurement of the fuel flow and will be used to check compliance with articles 5.1.4 and 5.1.5 of the F1 technical regulations..." This is in conformity with articles 5.10.3 and 5.10.4 of the technical regulations.

b. The technical directive goes on to state: "If at any time WE consider that the sensor has an issue which has not been detected by the system WE will communicate this to the team concerned and switch to a back-up system."
(emphasis added.)

c. The back-up system is the calculated fuel flow model with a correction factor decided by the FIA.

9) The FIA technical representative observed thought the telemetry during the race that the fuel flow was too high and contacted the team, giving them the opportunity to follow his previous instruction, and reduce the fuel flow such that it was within the limit, as measured by the homologated sensor - and thus gave the team the opportunity to be within compliance. The team chose not to make this correction.

10) Under Art. 3.2 of the sporting regulations it is the duty of the team to ensure compliance with the technical regulations throughout the event.

Thus the stewards find that:

A) The team chose to run the car using their fuel flow model, without direction from the FIA. This is a violation of the procedure within TD/01614.

B) That although the sensor showed a difference in readings between runs in P1, it remains the homologated and required sensor against which the team is obliged to measure their fuel flow, unless given permission by the FIA to do otherwise.

C) The stewards were satisfied by the explanation of the technical representative that by making an adjustment as instructed, the team could have run within the allowable fuel flow.

D) That regardless of the team's assertion that the sensor was fault, it is not within their discretion to run a different fuel flow measurement method without the permission of the FIA.

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[rickdohc]

Menos mal que no me tradnoche para ver esta farsa.... Perdon, carrera:.........

[nicosan]

Menos mal que no me tradnoche para ver esta farsa.... Perdon, carrera:.........

Yo solo digo que si comparas el sonido de estos motores con los de un Indycar suenan casi igual

[pascal]

[Nemesis]

Resumen.

Youtube

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[magueto]

Ya sabemos quien fue el primero que perdio la vi#$%&dad este año en la F1 .

[Cesar]

que bueno es poder los Mclaren haciendo podio los dos

por lo del sonido para mi es mucha hablada de la gente, yo veo la carrera y me gusta la F1 por todo lo q tiene no solo por como suena por tele. Cuando hay un buen pique, un buen rebase, buena maniobra quien esta escuchando el motor?