Se dio lo que casi que era inevitable.
A mi criterio es lo mejor que le podía pasar. Es bueno para el, para Mclaren y por supuesto para la F1.
Ahora a esperar quien quiere contar con un piloto de esa categoría en su escudería
Fernando Alonso rompe su contrato con McLaren-Mercedes
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Rocketman
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Yo en serio llegué a creer que se quedaba en McLaren.
Para ser campeón en el 2008 solo con McLaren o Ferrari, y de momento no hay taxis disponibles en el área. En fin, que rico me sabe, porque en realidad no veo a McLaren campeón en el 2008 sin FA.
Interesante verlo en un equipo de mas potencial, como BMW...
The Rocketman
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Para ser campeón en el 2008 solo con McLaren o Ferrari, y de momento no hay taxis disponibles en el área. En fin, que rico me sabe, porque en realidad no veo a McLaren campeón en el 2008 sin FA.
Interesante verlo en un equipo de mas potencial, como BMW...
The Rocketman
Red Championship Rockets
"Over 35 million of them have been sold worldwide, reputedly at the rate of one a second for 40 years of its lifespan. A fact that causes every proper car lover to die a little inside." http://partesdecohete.blogspot.com/
Re: Sinceramente
claro toda la razónRocketman escribió:Yo en serio llegué a creer que se quedaba en McLaren.
Para ser campeón en el 2008 solo con McLaren o Ferrari, y de momento no hay taxis disponibles en el área. En fin, que rico me sabe, porque en realidad no veo a McLaren campeón en el 2008 sin FA.
Interesante verlo en un equipo de mas potencial, como BMW...
The Rocketman
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sin FA creo que Mclaren no la va pasar bien
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1 año no creo que le sirva a ninguno de los 2. Toyota ocupa un piloto que los ayude a desarrollar el auto.Clio 2.0 escribió:Creo que Alonso se va para toyota con un contrato de 1 año y muuuuuchos millones de por medio.
Y con todo el respeto no creo 1 año baste para Toyota. Ni a Alonso El estar ligado así sin metas a mediano plazo.
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Re: Sinceramente
Totalmente de acuerdo con ustede Sr. Rocket me da mucha tristeza.... ojala tambien me coma estas palabras....Rocketman escribió:Yo en serio llegué a creer que se quedaba en McLaren.
Para ser campeón en el 2008 solo con McLaren o Ferrari, y de momento no hay taxis disponibles en el área. En fin, que rico me sabe, porque en realidad no veo a McLaren campeón en el 2008 sin FA.
Interesante verlo en un equipo de mas potencial, como BMW...
The Rocketman
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.Saludos,
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(507) Panama Peace & Love
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Bien por Alonso, la situacion en McThiefs tiene que haber sido insoportable.... Por McLaren, pues me alegro... todavia mas lejos van a estar de Ferrari el otro año.
BMW creo que se queda como esta
FA para mi se va a:
1. RENAULT porque no tiene piloto
o
2. TOYOTA que le urge desarrollar su multimillonario equipo
o
3. RED BULL que tiene igual que Toyota la plata para pagar lo que vale un dos veces campeon del mundo.
FERRARI Y KIMI BICAMPEONES!!!
P.D siguen el camino del Sapri jajaja...
BMW creo que se queda como esta
FA para mi se va a:
1. RENAULT porque no tiene piloto
o
2. TOYOTA que le urge desarrollar su multimillonario equipo
o
3. RED BULL que tiene igual que Toyota la plata para pagar lo que vale un dos veces campeon del mundo.
FERRARI Y KIMI BICAMPEONES!!!
P.D siguen el camino del Sapri jajaja...
Saludos,
Miguel Montero Diez
SI TE CREES INTELECTUAL, PORQUE LEES LO QUE ESCRIBO???
GET OUT OF MY WAY BITCH!!!
Miguel Montero Diez
SI TE CREES INTELECTUAL, PORQUE LEES LO QUE ESCRIBO???
GET OUT OF MY WAY BITCH!!!
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HAY MUCHA ESPECULACION, AUNQUE ALONSO NO ES SANTO DE MI DEVOCION ME GUSTARIA VERLOS EN UN BMW, EL DESARROLLO DE ELLOS VA POR BUEN CAMINO Y LA VERDAD CREO QUE ALONSO LE DARIA EL TOQUE AL EQUIPO PARA LUCHAR POR BUENOS LUGARES..
SERIA INTERESANTE VER LA LUCHA ENTRE KIMMI, ALONSO, MASSA Y EL OTRO( COMO ES QUE SE LLAMA) HAMILTON CREO... NO ES IMPORTANTE PERO BUENO..
CREO QUE ALONSO PUEDE DEMOSTRAR MUCHO Y SERIA UNA BUEN SUCESO PARA EL.. RED B. EQUIPO DE TERCERA Y TOYOTA MUY MAL COMO PARA ARRIESGAR CON ELLOS....
SERIA INTERESANTE VER LA LUCHA ENTRE KIMMI, ALONSO, MASSA Y EL OTRO( COMO ES QUE SE LLAMA) HAMILTON CREO... NO ES IMPORTANTE PERO BUENO..
CREO QUE ALONSO PUEDE DEMOSTRAR MUCHO Y SERIA UNA BUEN SUCESO PARA EL.. RED B. EQUIPO DE TERCERA Y TOYOTA MUY MAL COMO PARA ARRIESGAR CON ELLOS....
Europa o Asia, de donde vendrá el proximo
Desde mi punto de vista si se le diera la oportunidad en BMW seria la mejor opcion, ya vimos q BM dio mucho de que hablar en este fin de temporada. PERO... Renault y Red Bull serian las cartas mas fuertes para mi...
En cuanto a las OYOTAS, creo q eso no es equipo para un piloto q quiere ser campeon del mundo
En cuanto a las OYOTAS, creo q eso no es equipo para un piloto q quiere ser campeon del mundo
Jose Arias
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Got Marathon?
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No estoy tan loco... después de todo.
... But Montezemolo has been lauding Alonso's sportsmanship and achievements in 2007 with a perspective that can only be seen through Ferrari's own brand of rose-tinted glasses, and then there is that rumoured pre-contract agreement.
An Alonso/Raikkonen pairing would be a formidable...
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... But Montezemolo has been lauding Alonso's sportsmanship and achievements in 2007 with a perspective that can only be seen through Ferrari's own brand of rose-tinted glasses, and then there is that rumoured pre-contract agreement.
An Alonso/Raikkonen pairing would be a formidable...
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Cansado de ver como 57 VAGOS destruyen al país!!!!!!
Al igual que Rocket... por un rato yo pensaba que se podia quedar en McLadrons... pero claramente no es el caso. Puede ser lo de Red Bull, pero en las circunstancias actuales veo SUMAMENTE dificil que a alguien le interese sacar un PINGO de plata para montar al majo en solo 18 carreras... si el mae se pone en muchos mates es capaz que termina siendo un peaton en el 2008.
Mae la bronca segun he podido leer en algunas fuentes es que el escollo de Renault es que la gente de Alonso quiere contrato por un anio unicamente... a lo cual no le veo razon porque de todas maneras Ferrari ya esta completo para 2008 y 2009 como minimo (si es que el mae quiere ser campeon otra vez)... A MEEEEENOS que alguien acabe contrato en BMW despues del 2008 pero no recuerdo el detalle. Porque sea como sea... para Alonso, Flavio y los fiebres Renoleros el carro del 2008 es una incognita. Renault lo quiere por varias temporadas para intentar recobrar la gloria de 2005 y 2006, pero si el majo solo quiere 12 meses no creo que Flavio (y al final Carlos Ghosn que es el que firma los cheques) acepte bajo esos terminos... ellos quieren elaborar un proyecto a largo plazo con un piloto TOP y sabemos que no hay muchos diposnibles.Clio 2.0 escribió:Eso esperamos varios por estos rumbos, vamos a ver que pasa.ruiz escribió:Ya era de esperarse que se fuera de McLaren, yo creo quel el próximo año va a estar en Renault.
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a mi no me crean.. pero tampoco suena loco
Red Bull are set to become a major player in Formula One if, as informed sources suggest, the British-based team are ready to sign Fernando Alonso and Ferrari's former technical director, Ross Brawn, for 2008. This follows hard on the heels of confirmation on Friday that McLaren and Alonso are to part company prematurely, the only surprise about their joint statement being that it has taken this long for both sides to state the obvious. Alonso has never been happy at McLaren thanks to being beaten on occasion by Lewis Hamilton and the Spaniard's future has risen to the top of the agenda now that the season has ended.
Red Bull may have been a late entrant in the rush to secure the services of the twice world champion but the addition of Brawn's name to the mix makes such a partnership seem tenable. Brawn, having masterminded five world titles with Michael Schumacher at Ferrari (never mind the previous two they secured while at Benetton), took a sabbatical in 2007 and maintained that, if he returned to F1, it would be with Ferrari and no one else.
Circumstances have changed since then. Ferrari, by proving their capability post-Brawn thanks to winning the drivers' championship with Kimi Raikkonen, have removed the cache the Englishman might have earned had he returned and been seen to turn the team around. More significant, perhaps, has been the spying scandal between Ferrari and McLaren, an unpleasant affair that will not have impressed Brawn, particularly as it involved Nigel Stepney, the Ferrari technical manager whom Brawn had rated highly. The challenge presented by lifting Red Bull to the level of Ferrari and McLaren could prove much more tempting, particularly if Alonso is the number one driver.
Hiring Alonso and Brawn would prove expensive for a team that already has Adrian Newey on board. None the less, placing Brawn alongside Newey will allow the former McLaren and Williams chief designer to focus on what he does best while Brawn applies his superb organisational and tactical skills by coordinating the running of the technical department and strategy during the races. If this is what is required to make Red Bull a leading contender after three seasons spent feeling their way in F1 then Dietrich Mateschitz, the millionaire behind the energy drinks company, will not hesitate to fund what should be the final piece in his expensive promotional jigsaw.
Ferrari will be in need of liquid sustenance if this comes to pass. Apart from hoping that Brawn would return to the fold, the Italian team had been pursuing Alonso, if not for 2008, then most certainly, the year after. Raikkonen will remain at Ferrari but, even though Felipe Massa has been re-signed until 2010, the Brazilian would have been cast aside had Alonso been available. It was a possibility if you listened to Luca di Montezemolo. In the midst of his increasingly tedious and self-righteous condemnation of McLaren and everything the British team stands for, the Ferrari president described Alonso as 'a real champion, in every sense, an extraordinary driver'.
If Alonso does turn up in Milton Keynes for a seat fitting for next year's Red Bull F1 car, then either David Coulthard or Mark Webber will be looking for employment elsewhere despite both drivers having a contract for 2008. It is difficult to see where either would go, particularly Coulthard, who is the oldest driver in the field. The 36-year-old Scot was not one of the three drivers named by Hamilton yesterday as being on the McLaren shortlist. They are Nico Rosberg, Adrian Sutil and Heikki Kovalainen. Webber, who is managed by Flavio Briatore, could move to Renault (which is run by Briatore) if Kovalainen leaves for McLaren but the staff at Renault might see Webber as a poor swap, particularly as the team had been hoping that Alonso might return to the team that gave him both championships.
Until Red Bull entered the bidding, Renault had been the favourite to take on Alonso since the Oxfordshire-based team had provided him with a happy and secure working environment. The management and engineering staff, who enjoyed working with Alonso from 2003 to 2006, would have been ready and willing to fulfil his need to be undisputed team leader if the return on their investment had been a rerun of his 15 victories with Renault. Alonso's familiarity with Renault's technical ability would have provided reassurance that this team could turn around its misfortune after problems with their wind tunnel and other smaller factors had contributed to a car that was inconsistent, slow and failed to win a race in 2007. Last night Renault boss, Flavio Briatore, hinted that negotiations with Alonso had already started. 'I have presented a project for the future to Fernando,' Briatore said, but dismissed the idea that any deal would only be for a year before the Spaniard joined Ferrari. 'I know how much he can still give Renault. But an agreement for one year would have no sense with an outlook projected for a period of time.'
Regardless of which car Alonso drives next year, the only certainty is that the contract will have, in block capitals, the requirement that he enjoys number one status, the single most important factor in the deterioration of his relationship with McLaren. A partnership that could have won this year's championship quickly degenerated as Alonso became aware that the biggest threat to winning a third successive title came from within his own team rather than from Ferrari or anywhere else. Hamilton may have a lot to answer for but at least he and his team can now look forward to a season devoid of the corrosive internal politics that contributed towards McLaren losing the drivers' championship in 2007.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/sport/st ... 58,00.html
Red Bull are set to become a major player in Formula One if, as informed sources suggest, the British-based team are ready to sign Fernando Alonso and Ferrari's former technical director, Ross Brawn, for 2008. This follows hard on the heels of confirmation on Friday that McLaren and Alonso are to part company prematurely, the only surprise about their joint statement being that it has taken this long for both sides to state the obvious. Alonso has never been happy at McLaren thanks to being beaten on occasion by Lewis Hamilton and the Spaniard's future has risen to the top of the agenda now that the season has ended.
Red Bull may have been a late entrant in the rush to secure the services of the twice world champion but the addition of Brawn's name to the mix makes such a partnership seem tenable. Brawn, having masterminded five world titles with Michael Schumacher at Ferrari (never mind the previous two they secured while at Benetton), took a sabbatical in 2007 and maintained that, if he returned to F1, it would be with Ferrari and no one else.
Circumstances have changed since then. Ferrari, by proving their capability post-Brawn thanks to winning the drivers' championship with Kimi Raikkonen, have removed the cache the Englishman might have earned had he returned and been seen to turn the team around. More significant, perhaps, has been the spying scandal between Ferrari and McLaren, an unpleasant affair that will not have impressed Brawn, particularly as it involved Nigel Stepney, the Ferrari technical manager whom Brawn had rated highly. The challenge presented by lifting Red Bull to the level of Ferrari and McLaren could prove much more tempting, particularly if Alonso is the number one driver.
Hiring Alonso and Brawn would prove expensive for a team that already has Adrian Newey on board. None the less, placing Brawn alongside Newey will allow the former McLaren and Williams chief designer to focus on what he does best while Brawn applies his superb organisational and tactical skills by coordinating the running of the technical department and strategy during the races. If this is what is required to make Red Bull a leading contender after three seasons spent feeling their way in F1 then Dietrich Mateschitz, the millionaire behind the energy drinks company, will not hesitate to fund what should be the final piece in his expensive promotional jigsaw.
Ferrari will be in need of liquid sustenance if this comes to pass. Apart from hoping that Brawn would return to the fold, the Italian team had been pursuing Alonso, if not for 2008, then most certainly, the year after. Raikkonen will remain at Ferrari but, even though Felipe Massa has been re-signed until 2010, the Brazilian would have been cast aside had Alonso been available. It was a possibility if you listened to Luca di Montezemolo. In the midst of his increasingly tedious and self-righteous condemnation of McLaren and everything the British team stands for, the Ferrari president described Alonso as 'a real champion, in every sense, an extraordinary driver'.
If Alonso does turn up in Milton Keynes for a seat fitting for next year's Red Bull F1 car, then either David Coulthard or Mark Webber will be looking for employment elsewhere despite both drivers having a contract for 2008. It is difficult to see where either would go, particularly Coulthard, who is the oldest driver in the field. The 36-year-old Scot was not one of the three drivers named by Hamilton yesterday as being on the McLaren shortlist. They are Nico Rosberg, Adrian Sutil and Heikki Kovalainen. Webber, who is managed by Flavio Briatore, could move to Renault (which is run by Briatore) if Kovalainen leaves for McLaren but the staff at Renault might see Webber as a poor swap, particularly as the team had been hoping that Alonso might return to the team that gave him both championships.
Until Red Bull entered the bidding, Renault had been the favourite to take on Alonso since the Oxfordshire-based team had provided him with a happy and secure working environment. The management and engineering staff, who enjoyed working with Alonso from 2003 to 2006, would have been ready and willing to fulfil his need to be undisputed team leader if the return on their investment had been a rerun of his 15 victories with Renault. Alonso's familiarity with Renault's technical ability would have provided reassurance that this team could turn around its misfortune after problems with their wind tunnel and other smaller factors had contributed to a car that was inconsistent, slow and failed to win a race in 2007. Last night Renault boss, Flavio Briatore, hinted that negotiations with Alonso had already started. 'I have presented a project for the future to Fernando,' Briatore said, but dismissed the idea that any deal would only be for a year before the Spaniard joined Ferrari. 'I know how much he can still give Renault. But an agreement for one year would have no sense with an outlook projected for a period of time.'
Regardless of which car Alonso drives next year, the only certainty is that the contract will have, in block capitals, the requirement that he enjoys number one status, the single most important factor in the deterioration of his relationship with McLaren. A partnership that could have won this year's championship quickly degenerated as Alonso became aware that the biggest threat to winning a third successive title came from within his own team rather than from Ferrari or anywhere else. Hamilton may have a lot to answer for but at least he and his team can now look forward to a season devoid of the corrosive internal politics that contributed towards McLaren losing the drivers' championship in 2007.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/sport/st ... 58,00.html
